Comments on: A sexist rant

By: Laraine

Laraine — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:23:15 +0000

Ok, I’m going to come clean here: I practice Traditional Chinese Medicine (acupuncture, herbal medicines, etc.), and this discussion has me both laughing and remembering encounters such as the high-level endocrinology specialist who told me in ’92 or so that my serious illness, which he refused to recognise or diagnose, was a consequence of my not having sufficient sex. Small wonder that I sought another opinion. I’m happy to report that many male practitioners of TCM exercise more thoughtful and attentive care than that guy (and the interns I supervise most certainly will!!). On the other hand, I left a woman gyno when she became hysterical at my refusal to use hormones, fluttering her hands and warning me that I would be more vulnerable to cancer if I didn’t take them. A few research studies have since proven her wrong. But, on the whole, when I have a health issue that needs diagnosis or care from the Western side of things, I do tend to seek out women practitioners. The rest of the time, my acupuncturists take care of me just fine.

By: MaryL

MaryL — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:36:53 +0000

OK- I’m a female Family Medicine doc, and the comments here are very interesting. In all fairness to my male colleagues, I do wonder if it’s ALL male MDs, or just a few insensitve ones? I ask BOTH my male and female patients the stress question, as it can impact how I treat the pain-that spot in the back near your shoulder? It’s real, it hurts and it’s a classic place for stress to hit you–you need pain pills, exercises and maybe some insight into why it happened now, and what can you do to prevent recurrence. Now in terms of labeling all the females as stress or psych illness when it’s really MS or pleurisy or Congestive heart failure or heart attack, I think some fellows are guilty of this. I do try to make sure all the students who rotate through this office understand that stereotyping the women as “hysterical” will get them into a lot of trouble, that listening is an art you get better at as you age and are “seasoned” and until then, keep asking the patient to describe, be open to the non-textbook presentation of disease and just LISTEN-the patient will evntually tell you what’s wrong. OK-enough of the lecture.
Can I also put in a word for a “Medical Home”? If you have an ongoing relationship with a Family Medicine (or Internist) doc, it is easier to sort out the really serious stuff from the the just-going-to-make you-miserable-for-a-while illness, and also the urgent care “doc-in-a-box” is geared to “treat and street”, not undertake ongoing care.
To sum up-there’s a doctor out there who is suited for you, in temperment, responsiveness, length of explanations, whatever it is that you need. Just keep looking, remember one size doesn’t fit all, and that we’re human too-we are all different, and we don’t always bond with every patient…keep looking!

By: KathyElliot

KathyElliot — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:32:04 +0000

“All in all it was easier to go with a woman doctor than to be arrested for strangling a man with his own stethoscope.”

…can I make t-shirts out of this? Please?

Joking aside, I’ve had much the same experience exactly a year ago. After a very bad case of stomach flu, I was rushed into the hospital the second time in as many weekends, being totally unable to breathe. It turned out later, as I spoke with a doctor friend of mine (female, married, three children who are never anything less than perfect, and on ER), that I had a bad case of Wet Pleura, where the infection moved to the coating around my lungs. The doctors in MY ER (male, I’m afraid) wrote ‘stress’ on my medical card. Should I say more, or is that quite enough? I tend to think so.

Hope you had a lovely Valentine (Doctor free, for all our peace of mind!)

By: Kerry

Kerry — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:57:46 +0000

I have several doctors, myself. I didn’t originally insist on a female ob/gyn, but the guy I initially went to after we moved here was just a jerk; I love my new doc. Both my neurologist and gastroenterologist are men; they did me the courtesy of learning that I hold a Ph.D. in biology, always address me as “Dr.”, and never talk down to me; my GI doc, in fact, loves to tell me about the latest research and to hear what’s new in science teaching. On the other hand, I go for routine stuff to a “doc in a box” place, where one physician referred to me, without batting an eye, as “the little girl in Birkenstocks.”

Talk about nearly strangled with his own stethoscope . . .

By: corgimom

corgimom — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:47:22 +0000

My gay male doctor, who is also my son’s pediatrician, is quite good and gentle and really never sexist. He’s the only male doc in my own experience that I can say that about.
The latte thing (sorry Laurie) sounds like the visual impacted the oral in a synaesthetic sort of way.

By: Cathy

Cathy — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:27:21 +0000

I actually had an argument with my five year old daughter a few months ago because she didn’t believe it was possible for men to be doctors. I realized that:

1. all the medical doctors that she has met have been female (my choice because they’ll actually listen to what you’re saying rather than what they think you’re going to say)
2. I have a Ph.D., so she knows that Mommy’s “big name” is Dr. So and So.
2. All my girlfriends are from grad school, and thus called Dr. Such-and-Such, etc.

I thought it was hilarious. But we have now established that boys can, in fact, be doctors. And they can also do ballet — if they want.

Cathy

By: Sara

Sara — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:26:10 +0000

I just returned from an appointment today with a male doctor who sounded for all the world like Ben Stein. If I wasn’t running a fever over 101 F and my head wasn’t sloshing about, I would have asked when I could win his money.

My best friend is in her last year of med school and I have always rooted for her. She has lots of women in her class too, and it makes me very appreciative of how this, for my generation, was never not an option. Of course girls can want to be doctors. How very lucky we are.

By: nkk1969

nkk1969 — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:12:57 +0000

Alice,

[now lay back and relax.]

There’s another thing male doctors are bad to do and female doctors never do. Females know there is no way on God’s Green Earth you can relax with several inches of cold surgical steel aimed at your Happy Place. Sheeeeesh.

Laurie,

[a couple of pregnancies tends to leave a woman with little bodily modesty]

Amen to that!

We know Russell doesn’t like doctors, but it’s a shame her options probably didn’t include a female physician, not to mention an OBGYN. Not that she’d need the OB part, but you know what I mean.

Nikki

By: tangential1

tangential1 — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:04:30 +0000

Along the vein that there are some things that men are better at: I always look for a guy when I’m trying to find someone new to cut my hair. I have a much better relationship with male hair-stylists because they are very good at giving me exactly what I ask for. I have no idea why, but just about every woman I’ve had cut my hair tries to make me look like a soccer mom. I’ve barely finished my BS!! I don’t want to look like a soccer mom!

My current stylist has a half dozen piercings and sleeves (tattoos from wrist to shoulder) and always gives me an awesome cut

By: ladonna

ladonna — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:36:13 +0000

Sorry, have to disagree (and on my first post too!!). My first gyno was a woman (with five children) treating (yeah) me for fertility issues — we were finished when she told me that I would get pregnant if I just stopped worrying about it. Now I start off any new male doctor with the following — “Please repeat after me: I am a man and I know the mechanics but I really have no clue.” If they can’t say that I move on. Managed to get through to menopause (early and surgically induced) without strangling anyone. A doctor (male or female) without a sense of humor and humility is useless.

And as for coffee — only in restaurants in US. I’m with Mary Russell — most situations are better with the teapot (a nice brown Betty) in clear sight.